For our first “That’s What He/She Said” post, TOPolk and I will be answering the question: “Is it okay for a woman to ask a man out on a date?” Ladies first…
Quarter-life Lady says:
I think it’s completely acceptable for a woman to ask a man out on a date. It is 2009, after all. It’s a nice feeling to ask a guy out and for him to accept. And if he pays, well, that’s just an added bonus.
I asked a guy out once. It worked out well in my favor. I was 85% sure he was going to say yes and he did. He picked me up, showed me around town, and paid for our drinks. He took me home, walked me to my door, and gave me a hug. Not too shabby, if I do say so myself.
I cannot deny, however, that I enjoy being the object of pursuit even more. Call me traditional, but I like having a man inquire about my relationship status, try to get to know me, and woo me with flowers.
With this in mind, I will never ask a guy out unless I feel confident he will say yes. I will never risk having my feelings hurt because I feel impatient. I will never doubt whether or not I am worthy of a man’s pursuit because I am. These are all personal preferences, of course, but that’s how I feel.
TOPolk says:
Since Akirah gave me such a lovely introduction in her last post (gracias), I’m going to go ahead and jump head first into the topic at hand. From a guy’s point of view, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a girl asking a guy out.
Sure, there’s the old school line of thought that says “guys should always do the asking,” but really ladies, it’s 2009. If there’s a guy you’ve got your eye on, go ahead and ask him out. We won’t mind, promise. More times than not, this may be the best course of action as we males have a tendency to be completely clueless to even the most obvious flirting. Then there are those times where we’re not oblivious to your advances, just tragically shy. In either scenario, if waiting on us to make the first move is going to cause you more stress than necessary, save yourself the trouble and just ask us out instead. It’s cool.
“But Terence, what about those times when I know the guy isn’t interested in me?” Good question and I think I’ve got a good answer. Situations like this are twofold. On one hand, there are the times when you know the guy isn’t interested in you. In this situation, ask the guy out at your own risk. Some of ya’ll may pass on this move, some of ya’ll may be of the mindset of “I won’t know until I try.” To this, all I can say is do what’s best for you. On the other hand, there are those times when you think the guy isn’t interested in you. Here, what appears to be “no interest” may just be “unknown interest.” In this scenario, I say ask away. I mean, the worst thing we can say is “I’m flattered, but no thanks.” (Actually, I take that back. We could say a lot worse, but for the sake of this post, roll with me.)
So go ahead ladies, get to work on your pickup lines. The odds are in your favor of most of us never hearing them before.
Tamarind Burrows
May 5th, 2009 at 11:35 PM
Thats interesting in He’s Just Not that Into You they say girls shouldn’t ask guys out that the tradition is not there because its an old rule its there ’cause its the natural order of things. I think much of the western world has pushed and fought so hard for equality between men and women that we no longer embrace the difference. It might not be “wrong” for women to ask out men but for everything i’ve seen its definitely better the other way around.
I agree to an extent, but I also think that it’s a personal issue/preference. There may be a natural order, but the truth is that there are some men who truly just don’t care. And there are some women who are balls-y enough to ask those men out.
nina
May 6th, 2009 at 9:53 AM
interesting perspective. thanks guys..lol
trust me, for me to ask, you gotta be a special guy…lol
Amen to that.
carolyn
May 6th, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I don’t think we should do the asking out. This is coming from a girl who PRACTICALLY asked out her current boyfriend, but not quite. You can hint, nudge, and flirt, but in the end, they will value you a whole lot more if you make them work for it a little bit. Terence, I may be the best thing you’ve never had, but I dont think you’d feel that way if I persued you.. just sayin’.
I agree. I think men like the feeling of pursuit and victory. But Terence doesn’t seem to confirm this. Actually, I asked Boyfriend and he didn’t seem to care either way too.
carolyn
May 6th, 2009 at 12:24 PM
p.s. This is FUN guys
I luuuuve hearing both the male & female perspective on things! SO often we just resort to girl talk and have little perspective based in the reality of what a man actually thinks!
MinD
May 6th, 2009 at 3:17 PM
You two handled this first topic very well, and with the same response. Looking forward to a time when you differ!
Thanks! I can think of a few topics where we will probably disagree.
Singlutionary
May 6th, 2009 at 4:16 PM
I don’t ask guys out anymore but I wish that we lived in a world where I could. I don’t know why but it seems that guys who don’t make the first move aren’t going to make any moves in their lives. So i’ve pursued a lot of losers this way. I hate the inherent sexism in dating. I hate playing by THE RULES but that is what I am doing for now. I guess it also helps that right now I don’t really want to date anyone anyways.
I would totally ask a guy out on a friend date. no biggie.
This is a good point. I mean, there can definitely be a theme in a guy’s life where if he doesn’t make moves on women, he may not make moves in his life. I guess for you, it’s best to just wait for a guy who is interested in you and isn’t too scared to pursue you.
Marie
May 7th, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Love the guy and girl perspectives!
I’ve never asked a guy out, but that’s because I’m terribly shy. I don’t think anything is wrong with it at all, though. I think it can be very empowering for a woman, and set up a great dynamic for the potential relationship.
I think Singlutionary brings up a really good point about the types of guys that get asked out. Are they typically the more passive guys? Is being with a passive guy ok with you? I think it’s a good point to consider.
Agreed. You don’t want to end up like Jon and Kate where you’re constantly walking all over and speaking for your man because he doesn’t have the balls to do it for himself. All because you couldn’t wait for a guy to pursue you. Interesting point.
carolyn
May 7th, 2009 at 11:51 AM
I think they are generally more passive. Obviously that’s a generalization and there are exceptions. Also, I think a man that has the confidence..(nerve?).. to ask out every pretty girl he likes could have issues that, to me, are a bigger deal than being passive.
So you’re saying you’d rather date a passive guy than a cocky one?
Akirah
May 8th, 2009 at 9:33 AM
I just wonder about those guys who are just clueless, like Terence says. I feel like many guys are just clueless. And perhaps they don’t think in terms of “the rules of dating.” Are we in an era where men are open to “whatever?”
Slimgoody
May 11th, 2009 at 9:26 PM
I think it is okay….I just did it myself and dude was shock that I approached him…Said, most girls wait on him to make the ‘first move’. I was thinking that I didn’t have anything to lose so why not….I probably wouldn’t see him again if he was receptive anyway….But luckily, he was happy to get the conversation going….
Good for you! Not many girls would have the same courage. And I’m happy he was interested. But you’re so hot…why wouldn’t he be?
ChinkyGirLMeL
May 12th, 2009 at 10:00 AM
I’ve never asked a guy out in my whole entire life. Hehehehe… But there have been times when I’ve wondered, what if I had gone for it? I wonder what Mr. So and So would have said… Here is the Philippines people are just soooooooooooooo conservative that just the thought of a girl asking a guy out is almost considered sinful! lols. But there are some countries where the girls are more aggressive. I’ve seen a couple Korean movies and it seems like girls are more aggressive in terms of pursuing the opposite sex. But I dunno, maybe this is just in the movies…
It’s interesting to think of the cultural implications too. Sometimes I forget how much our culture or the media influence the things we feel comfortable doing.
JoeyGirl
May 19th, 2009 at 4:30 PM
I would never ask a guy out. Not that I can’t do it, I just like being chased. I have made the first move, but again only on guys I want nothing real with. If he doesn’t want me enough to grab his balls and ask me out, then he’s definitely not my type of man.
I think if a girl asks a guys out, then she needs to step up and foot the bill for the date. That’s the rule. The person who asks is the person who pays. Expecting or letting the person who agreed to go on the date put up any money is just tacky.
I agree.